INDIES (Gb)
2001 by A.P. Indy 89 x Cinnamon Sugar (Ire) 91, by Wild Again 80
Introduced in 2006 to
New Mexico, INDIES 2001 by A.P. Indy 89 x Cinnamon Sugar (Ire) 91, by
Wild Again 80 is a descendant of Bruce Lowe's female family #9-C.
Family Nomenclature & Identification:
1st gen: 3-L * 9-C (Dual/Dual)
2nd gen: 13-C, 3-L * 3-E, 9-C (Sire,Dual * Dual,Dual)
3rd gen: 1-K,13-C,2-S,3-L * 8-C,3-E,2-N,9-C
4th gen:4-M,1-K,1-S,13-C,8-D,2-S,1-S,3-L *
14-C,8-C,22-D,3-E,4-D,2-N,23-B,9-C
Running Family #1 (1-K,1-S,1-S), Running Family #2 (2-S,2-N),
Dual Family #3 (3-L,3-E), Running Family #4 (4-M,4-D),
Siring Family #8 (8-D,8-C)
INDIES (Gb) has an interesting
pedigree with unusual patterns of reinforcement. His
six-generation pedigree is low in female inbreeding. In some
respects, his is a throwback to the types of successful, selective
matings of an earlier era – being yet another example of the
well-known Bold Ruler/Princequillo nicks. He is a member of
female family #9-C and both parents are dual family qualifiers.
His matriline is one of first-class, racing performance. First
dam, CINNAMON SUGAR (IRE) is multiple G1-placed, G2 winner of
$412,596. Second dam, SUGAR AND SPICE is a G1 stakes winner of
$257,046 and a multiple stakes producer with a demonstrated, blacktype
affinity for Mr. Prospector. Third dam, stakes-placed, Sweet
Tooth, Broodmare-of-the-Year is the dam of champion 3YO filly, OUR MIMS
G1, $368,034, SUGAR AND SPICE G1, $257,046 [above], and the great sire
ALYDAR G1, $957,195.
INDIES (Gb) is free of Mr.
Prospector/Raise A Native and Northern Dancer bloodlines, therefore is
an ideal outcross for mares with such bloodlines. Indeed, his
bloodlines have already demonstrated an affinity for Raise A
Native. Indies has two strains of *Polynesian [through Alanesian
and a daughter of Native Dancer, sire of Raise A Native. His
Polynesian strains manifest themselves primarily as female strains and
are located on various maternal wings within the interior of Indies'
pedigree. They should be a sex-linked complement to any Mr.
Prospector or Raise A Native strains carried by broodmares bred to
Indies.
INDIES’ (Gb) pedigree is
mostly heterozygous in profile through six-generations.
Outcrossing to broodmares carrying strains of Mr. Prospector or Raise A
Native and strains of Northern Dancer has the downside of such
resulting progeny also will be mostly heterozygous in profile.
This is the risk of additional dilution of prepotency due to lower
opportunity for inbreeding-linkage between INDIES’ (Gb) pedigree
and those of the mares to whom he might be bred. In general, an
absence of inbreeding reinforcement of prepotent individuals within
six-generations tends to be a negative factor in selective mating for
performance.
I strongly recommend selecting mares
with Mr. Prospector, Raise A Native, and/or Northern Dancer bloodlines
that also have hooks to some of the strong ancestors in INDIES' (Gb)
pedigree within six-generations. INDIES (Gb) has only four
instances of opposite-sex inbreeding and his pedigree has excess male
inbreeding. Therefore, his pedigree is sex-unbalanced toward
males [2.20 sire coancestry coefficient compared to 0.39 dam coancestry
coefficient – coancestry values tending toward a one-to-one ratio
[1:1] are "better"].
INDIES (Gb) matriline has
previously strongly nicked with Tom Fool and Nashua [Real
Delight], It has nicked with male *Nasrullah descendants [Plum
Cake], It seriously nicked with Raise A Native, *Herbager, and in
INDIES' (Gb) pedigree, Key To The Mint [Sweet Tooth], male
Turn-to and Wild Again descendants [Sugar And Spice]. A
slight negative, Sugar And Spice, INDIES' (Gb) second dam, failed
to nick with Seattle Slew, a cross partially repeated in the mating
that produced INDIES (Gb) 2001. The mating of Wild Again to Sugar
And Spice produced a multiple G1-placed, G2 stakes winner of $412,596,
but as a broodmare she has produced so far nothing of exceptional
merit. A.P. Indy, already a producer of first class merit, has a
strong chance of having the prepotency to be a sire-of-sires.
Unfortunately, INDIES (Gb) (GB) 2001 was never able to demonstrate
running superiority. Seattle Slew seems (especially at the level
of regional-quality stallions) to throw far too much stamina and little
speed in many of his descendants. One exception was the sire,
Eteelya 1987, by Seattle Slew x Had To Buy, by Sadiar. If
anything, Eteelya has even less inbreeding than INDIES (Gb).
Obviously INDIES (Gb) has a classic pedigree as does A.P. Indy.
A.P. Indy has not yet conclusively demonstrated a nicking profile among
his descendants other than an affinity for sires such as Mr.
Prospector, Raise A Native, and Northern Dancer carrying the Fitz James
/ Lady Fitz James genetic marker.
Mares with female Polynesian, male
and female Native Dancer, Raise A Native Mr. Prospector are especially
suitable for INDIES (Gb).
INDIES (Gb) should cross with broodmares having female Hail To Reason, Turn-to
War Admiral, War Relic, Man O'War, male or female Knight's Daughter, female Round Table
male and female La Troienne.
INDIES (Gb) should also cross with broodmares having Nearco/Hyperion bloodlines, female Nearco strains are especially desirable.
INDIES (Gb) should like broodmares with Bull Dog, Bull Lea and Blue Larkspur in their pedigrees.
Other bloodlines for INDIES (Gb)
include any Missy Baba - Raja Baba, etc., for example, Lazy Lode
(Arg) has Missy Baba and ==>Nashua<==.
INDIES (Gb) is an example of the
well-known, typical Bold Ruler - Princequillo nick. The twin
*Nasrullah forces of Bold Ruler and Nashua [as found in INDIES' (Gb)
pedigree] were dominant in past years in North America.
Bold Ruler progeny rather quickly
and successfully adapted to American-style running and to the North
American breeding population. Nashua’s progeny, however,
were characterized by strong stamina influences and seemed, at first,
to be not as dominant. However in the lone run, Nashua has proved
to have become a more durable, more prepotent ancestral influence in
modern American pedigrees than Bold Ruler.
Breeders are strongly encouraged to
consider INDIES (Gb) for broodmares having one or more strains of
Nashua in their pedigrees. Nashua remains one of the great American
stamina influences in modern, North American pedigrees. Even
though Nashua disappointed in establishing a tail-male patriline, he
has become a significant trigger for the expression of performance
traits in pedigrees when doubled. Nashua also seems to have an
affinity for Missy Baba as well.
Daughters of New Mexico sires that would contribute NEAR INBREEDING when mated to INDIES (Gb):
===> Wild Deputy 1993 (Wild Again, Buckpasser, Bold Ruler, Glamour
===> Tilt The Odds 1983 (Nasrullah Nearco, Dante)
===> Devil Begone 1990 (Sweet Tooth, Hail To Reason, Dante, Native Dancer)
Alnaab 1988 (Hail To Reason, Nasrullah, Nearco, Native Dancer, Sir Gallahad 3rd)
Prospector Jones 1992 (Native Dancer, Buckpasser, Nasrullah, Nearctic)
Confide 1994 (Icecapade, Hail To Reason)
Dee Lance 1985 (Bold Ruler, Princequillo, Hyperion)
===> Devon Lane 1993 (Nearctic, Secretariat, Round Table, On-And-On, Native Dancer)
===> Forever Whirl 1990 (Hyperion, Secretariat, Round Table, Native Dancer, Ribot)
===> Lazy Lode (Arg) 1994 (MISSY BABA, Sir Gaylord, Nearctic, Native dancer)
===> Precocity 1994 (BOLD REASONING, Ribot, Native Dancer)
===> Silver Season (Family 9-B to 9-C, Secretariat, Native Dancer, Nasrullah,
Hail To Reason, Princequillo, Nearctic)
Daughters of Whiskey Wisdom 1993 (Canada),